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Someca 850 (TD)

Built: 1969–1975 · Series: GOLD-RIBBON SERIE

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The Someca 850 (TD) belongs to the GOLD-RIBBON series. Production: 1969–1975. The engine delivers 85 hp (62.5 kW), has 4 cylinders, with a displacement of 4,939 cm³. Torque is 318 Nm. Rated speed is 2,100 rpm. The machine is 4,050 mm long, 1,935 mm wide and 2,620 mm high. The unladen weight is 3,195 kg. The wheelbase measures 2,362 mm. Ground clearance is 518 mm. Top speed is 25 km/h. Transmission: 12 V/4 R or 16 V/4 R. The engine is water-cooled. Tyres: front 6.50-20 ASF (TD: 11.25-24 AS), rear 14-34 AS. The fuel is diesel. The bore measures 110 mm. The stroke is 130 mm. The compression ratio is 17:1. Maximum torque is reached at 1,200 rpm. Construction: unit construction (no separate frame). The GOLD-RIBBON SERIE series covers 36 models. Rated output within it ranges from 25 to 145 hp; the 850 (TD) sits in the middle of that range with 85 hp. Its immediate neighbours are the 800 (TD) below it with 76 hp and the 900 (TD) above it with 90 hp. Unladen weight within it ranges from 1,070 to 5,650 kg; here the 850 (TD) sits in the middle of that range with 3,195 kg. 92 Someca models across 8 series are on record.

Someca Gold Ribbon: the Fiat range built for export, from the Someca 250 (DT) to the 1300 SUPER (DT), 18.4 to 106.6 kW, two- to six-cylinder engines with water cooling

After 1965, Someca built only Fiat designs under licence. The "Gold Ribbon" range, created for export markets, particularly Britain, bundled these Fiat-based models of the late 1960s and 1970s under Someca's own name and trim.

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The register lists 36 live models, from the Someca 250 (DT) to the 1300 SUPER (DT), built between 1968 and around 1983. Output ranges from 18.4 to 106.6 kW, weight from 1,070 to 5,650 kg, displacement from 1,559 to 7,412 cm3 across two-, three-, four- and six-cylinder engines.

The Gold Ribbon range thus covers practically the entire Fiat-Someca power spectrum of those years, from a compact two-cylinder up to the large six-cylinder 1300 model. Technically, these tractors largely match the equivalent ranges sold in parallel under the Fiat name.

In 1983 Someca was fully absorbed into the Fiatagri division, which became Fiat New Holland in 1993 and later CNH Global — an endpoint that closes out the Gold Ribbon era.

The huge power spread from 18.4 to 106.6 kW means several categories of the ISO 730 three-point linkage occur within the Gold Ribbon range: the small two-cylinder models mostly Category 0 or I, the large six-cylinders already Category II. On a specific example, the actual hitch category should therefore be checked before buying new implements, rather than relying on the model name alone.

Sources: SpecCodex register, model data: Someca Gold Ribbon

Technical data

Engine

Fueldieselcorrect
Power85 hp (62.5 kW)correct
Rated speed2,100 rpmcorrect
Torque318 Nmcorrect
Speed at max. torque1,200 rpmcorrect
Cylinders4correct
Displacement4,939 cm³correct
Bore110 mmcorrect
Stroke130 mmcorrect
Compression ratio17correct
Coolingwater-cooledcorrect

Dimensions and weights

Length4,050 mmcorrect
Width1,935 mmcorrect
Height2,620 mmcorrect
Wheelbase2,362 mmcorrect
Ground clearance518 mmcorrect
Unladen weight3,195 kgcorrect

Drivetrain and chassis

Driverear- or four-wheel drivecorrect
Gearbox12 V/4 R or 16 V/4 Rcorrect
Front tyres6.50-20 ASF (TD: 11.25-24 AS)correct
Rear tyres14-34 AScorrect
Top speed25 km/hcorrect

Origin and approval

Constructionunit construction (no separate frame)correct

Where this model stands

Power-to-weight ratio: 19.6 kW/t (62 kW / 3.2 t)

Power class: Universal (40–100 hp)

Stronger than 58% of the tractors in the register — out of 15,663 models with a stated power figure.

Calculated from the documented figures above — not a rating.

Frequently asked questions

How much power does the Someca 850 (TD) have?

The Someca 850 (TD) delivers 85 hp.

How much does the Someca 850 (TD) weigh?

The unladen weight is 3,195 kg.

What engine does the Someca 850 (TD) have?

4 cylinders, 4,939 cm³ displacement, Diesel.

How fast does the Someca 850 (TD) go?

Top speed is 25 km/h.

What are the dimensions of the Someca 850 (TD)?

4,050 mm × 1,935 mm × 2,620 mm.

When was the Someca 850 (TD) built?

Production years: 1969–1975.

What to check before buying

  • Check the hour meter against the service records — a replaced instrument is the most common gap.
  • Compare the data plate and chassis number with the papers.
  • Check the weights in the papers against the figures here — attachments change them.
  • Check front and rear tyre sizes: mismatched pairs strain the drivetrain.
  • Shift the gearbox cold and warm — jumps only show up at temperature.
  • Load the hydraulics and watch for sag.
  • Ask about parts availability for this build year — the running costs hang on it.

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